Your suggestions are correct: veganism is a feminist issue through-and-through.

Why do people preclude veganism from the beginning, when, on their own premises about the badness of suffering, eating nonhuman animals, which is unnecessary given the abundant alternatives available, is logically precluded in the premise.

Karak,

Your emotional response to the suffering in factory farms is a signal that these animals ought to be an object of your moral concern; you see their suffering as bad ergo they aren’t like inanimate objects — rocks, radios, coffee cups — that do not suffer; however, the only way to justify continuing to force them to suffer in any way simply because we have a “taste” for their body parts is to force these beings, who you have already situated in the class of beings who should count, into a lower class whereby their suffering really isn’t that big of a deal. I’m simply affording them some charity by not burning them to death, but it isn’t necessarily the right thing to do.

It doesn’t follow. The cognitive dissonance here is contradicting whatever reason you have for “never going vegan or vegetarian.” Listen to it!

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“Eating a purely vegan diet, that doesn’t include vitamin supplements, or anything synthetic introduced to it will result in malnutrition.”

David, everybody needs to eat something to get vitamins, nutrition, etc. I eat nonhuman animal sources; you eat flesh. Therefore, to try and label my sources as “unnatural” (as you imply) or wrong begs the question. We all have to eat something to get whatever it is we need. One isn’t objectively right, while the other is objectively wrong. However, one is ethically wrong: flesh sources.

There’s no reason they need to suffer like this, and I’m going to try to not be part of the system anymore.

What you should consider a waste of time, is trying to convince humans with healthy diets that we need to be vegan to appease your emotional state.

Dude, privileged much? I didn’t realize that, by publishing a blog post on my own website, I was obligating myself to engage with every anonymous troll who stops by and makes demands of my time.

Like I said, you’re THE MAN.

As for lions hunting in the Savannah, I wouldn’t call that wanton cruelty, because 1) lions, being carnivores, don’t have much of a choice in the matter and 2) lions don’t imprison, torture, exploit and factory farm their prey beforehand. Meat-eating among lions isn’t a matter of wants, it’s a matter of needs.

Your seeming lack of knowledge re: veg*n nutrition, coupled with your tired, rudimentary anti-veg arguments (“lions eat meat!”) and your apparent disgust with me, tell me that you’re a troll and it’d be a waste of my time to continue arguing with you. If you find me so bothersome, the solution is simple – stop reading.

Eating meat is not “wanton cruelty”. Do you go to the savannah and complain to the lioness that her diet is cruel?

Animals eat other animals. Humans are animals.

Vegan diets are unsustainable. Why do you think so many vegans take vitamin supplements, or eat food enriched with vitamins (by science) that it never had in the first place?

Eating a purely vegan diet, that doesn’t include vitamin supplements, or anything synthetic introduced to it will result in malnutrition.

Peta types like yourself just sort of bother me, can’t help it. You spend all this time trying to force people into your viewpoint, and it doesn’t work. It’s just obnoxious.